7mm-08 Remington, 30-06 Springfield and .300 Winchester Magnum (l to r).308 Winchester for Elk. I also have a Kimber classic in .308 with a 3x9 Leupold that weighs less than 6 1/2 pounds. I own a 308, 6.5 creed more, 7mm 08, and 300 short magnum. The pronounced Monte Carlo stock is reported to fit ladies better. Factory ammo is much cheaper for the .308, and you can get heavier bullets in factory ammo. is the modern version of W.M.D. Dec 24, 2016 #3 1. S. Slidellkid OP. Its got a perfect balance of power and recoil. These will give substantially better performance than the 308 and won't burn barrels nearly as … It flat out works. My 300 mag stays in the safe now, and my 7mm08 goes every time. I have been thinking of purchasing a very lightweight rifle for elk hunting. 7mm-08 vs 308 The 7mm-08 Remington shoots lighter, smaller diameter, and more aerodynamic bullets with a higher sectional density faster than bullets used by the.308 Winchester. I've taken much game with the 308, and my Weatherby 300 Alaskan too, but that 7MM-08 is a sweet package as well, plus light on recoil. My only warning is watch building a really light 308 , sticking a full throttle 180 grain load in it and handing it to a kid! For those who think the .308 cannot do well with 180 gr bullets have obviously not shot many elk with them. We both agreed the Weatherby left the Savage in the dust. of free energy in a 7.5 pound rifle. So I was just curious to know who here hunts with 7mm-08 for elk and deer. First, please refer to the cartridge by it's recognized names: I have a 7-08 (aka 7mm-HT) and it has killed a couple mule deer and an antelope. I will have a dedicated rifle for elk and bears. The 308 Winchester was birthed by the 30-06 back in 1952. 7mm-08 Remington The 7mm-08 Remington was introduced in the 1980’s as a way to replicate the performance of the older 7×57 Mauser in a modern caliber and cartridge. The two have more similarities than differences. Shoot him in the ear hole. Remington’s parent case is actually .308 Winchester and its closely related .260 Remington is also based on a 308 cartridge. By Joseph von Benedikt. Here is a bit of historical information that you should remember about 7mm-08 Remington as well as Creedmoor 6.5. I have no experience with it as an elk gun but others on here swear by it. For a deer cartridge it is perfect. I've been lucky enough to see 3 deer, 2 elk fall with her on the trigger. Slidellkid. Even though it was just a thought I got to reading up and watching what I could find on good deer and elk rifles. Thanks Luke, experience is a great teacher.. Find a tough cartridge for one of the most prized and toughest hooved big game animals around. The Creedmoor is the flavor of the month right now though. "For those that cares the 308 Winchester is a poor performer with anything other then the 150 GR bullet". OP. This showdown, 30 06 vs. 308, will be hard to call! From a carry standpoint I prefer the Kimber but not sure if a .308 is enough cartridge for elk. It’s a short action with more energy than a standard 7mm-08 at 2629 fps with a 150-grain bullet, yet it still has friendly recoil at around 18 ft.-lbs. My wife mentioned something about "maybe" getting a gun for me to go hunting with. While yes, logic suggests longer throat life for the .308, chambering is not the sole determinant factor. You must log in or register to reply here. So is there any reason to go with the 7mm-08 over the creedmoor? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I am leaning towards the 6.5 creedmoor because recoil in the light Kimber Montana can be stout. My wife has taken elk and whitetails with hers in the Browning X bolt Micro. Updated: May 10, 2019. 20 inch pencil thin barrel. 140 gr. Powder capacity remains the same, so the 7mm-08 propels a lighter, narrower, higher B.C. I don't think the OP is looking for a ladies gun. The 7mm-08 Remington is based on the .308 Winchester case necked down to 7mm and was loaded with a 140-grain bullet at 2860 fps. I've killed several elk with my 308 and they all went down with one shot except last years bull. Reactions: CaliforniaDreaming. Using Ackley’s figures (also found here) the .308 loaded with a 180-grain spitzer boattail bullet at 2600 feet per second has the minimum amount of energy to kill an elk out to 600 yards, adequate out to 400, and preferred out to 50 yards.With a 165-grain SBT at 2700 fps those figures … Also I already have a Ruger precision in that caliber as well as all the reloading supplies. Flatter trajectory, less wind deflection and MORE ENERGY downrange where it might actually matter. A year later, a 7mm-08 got me an elk in that same canyon. Lots of very good information on this forum about hunting big game with the 7mm-08. By comparing the merits of the 6.5 creedmoor vs .308, we will provide a complete picture on which of the two seems to be a good purchasing choice for you. I have never lost an Elk that I've shot at, some were at close range others at yardage I won't even mention. Getting below that you you might pick up a very small advantage with the 7 08. Posts: 3,195. Why the 7mm-08 Remington is a top short-action choice: A direct copy of the 7mm/.308 wildcat dating back to 1958 and earlier. I'll start something now, I've taken Elk with a .243, .270, 7mm-08, 7mm Mag, 30-06, and a 300 H&H. 1. Rifle braced against a tree, I sent a bullet from the 6.5×55 and heard it hit. I think the .260 and 7-08 are a coin toss whether one is the better. If you dive into the historical developments of the 6.5 Creedmoor round vs the 7mm-08, you will notice how the cartridges are somehow related to .308 Winchester. You are using an out of date browser. Mag.) Introduced by Hornady in 2007, the 6.5 Creedmoor is easily the hottest-selling rifle … It pretty much flew under the radar for years, with a few rifles and loads offered and an occasional mention in the shooting and hunting media. 150 gr TSX's work and shoot great in my rifle and at 7 lbs even it is a pleasure to carry. If I were buying the gun mainly for elk, I would go with the 308, especially if you don't reload. Thanks The 7mm-08 Remington is simply the.308 Winchester cartridge necked-down to handle.284 inch diameter bullets. I hit him at 250 yds broadside through the lungs and he stayed on his feet (barely) for about 10 seconds so I put another through his neck for an insurance shot but didn't really need to. The 7mm-08 Rem. The .308 gains in bore life what it probably yeilds in LR performance. It was devised by necking down the .308 Winchester caliber’s neck, in order for the overall bullet to have a smaller diameter. The caliber is, of course, .308. 308 vs 30/06, 280 ai vs 7mm/08 , all you really give up is a 100-150 yards at the far end of their range. I have two, a Tikka and a BLR. What was the main appeal of the 7mm at the time? 7mm-08 RemingtonSometime in 1958, a certain 7mm/308 Winchester wildcat round was developed and as the name suggests, people made it simply by necking down a standar… Campfire Guide. Lots of very good information on this forum about hunting big game with the 7mm-08. The only way to be sure is to set up 2 trail cams, each in prime elk habitat. The main difference is that the .308 may be filled with a higher pressure powder charge than the NATO version. IMO!!!! 308 or 7mm-08 for Elk. JUST IMO!!!! It will probably be a short action. Let us begin by understanding the two cartridges historically. Re: 7mm-08 v. .308 barrel life? Commercial hunting loads for the 7mm-08 have bullets that range up to 160 grains while.308 ammunition tops at about 185 grains, and with bullets from 150 to 160 grains, the 7mm-08 will outperform the.308. 7mm-08 Remington Back in 1958, a certain 7mm/308 Winchester wildcat round was brought into development as its name hints, people developed this round by just necking down a standard .308 Winchester to have .284 bullets (7mm). My wife has taken elk and whitetails with hers in the Browning X bolt Micro. Put several .308 cartridges in front of 1 cam, & some 7-08's in front of the other. Campfire Guide. I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. The top four cartridges (.30-06, .308, .270 and 7mm Rem. If you are determined to use the 7mm bullets look at the 280 rem, 280 improved, and 284 win. mtmuley. #4462716 09/30/10: Joined: Jan 2007. The 7mm-08 Remington cartridge was introduced in the 1980s. Voters in 2016 bristled at redistribution, open borders, bigger government, and higher taxes, but progressives are now promising those voters even more of what they didn’t want. That said there's multiple bullets in 140gr that I'd have no trouble hunting deer and elk with. If you are keeping it under 300 yards, then a .308 will work just fine. Where a 7mm really shines is at longer shooting distances, where shots tend to start at the 300 yard+ range, and extend out to 500 or more. I like them all and they all have their place, but doing it all over again, I would own two 7-08s and call it good. Either one with a good bullet the Elk just won't know the difference. Ive taken every animal with all those calibers at one time or another, under all types of circumstances. are not surprising. If I were to pick between the .08 and Creedmoor, I'd take the .08. The only thing separating these calibers from the four top calibers is use on moose and elk. We have updated our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy as of May 5th, 2020, Best all around caliber for the Tikka T3x Lite in Montana. 1_pointer Well-known member. I had a cute little model 7 in 308. Complete penetrations on all shots, even punching both shoulders on a big cow elk. I even borrowed it a couple times this fall, she's not happy about the scratches I put in the wood stock. Funny that a thread can go for pages and people can get pissed off over a topic that makes ZERO difference in the outcome of an elk hunt. Federal Premium Nosler Partitions. This rifle just got a new trigger and will be getting an upgraded ultralight stock and a new VX-3i 3.5-10 scope very soon. The 7mm-08 Rem. You want to see an animal drop right now? I'm taking my 7mm-08 again next year and I'm handloading 160 grain accubonds to a little under 2600 fps. They're wicked accurate and that heavy, high BC bullet holds a surprising amount of energy, out to a surprising distance. In addition to those you listed above, I watched you shoot a Montana Mountain Goat with a 7mm-.08 with one shot, using 140 grain E-tip bullets. For a woman, might look at the Savage Lady Hunter or the Weatherby Vanguard. In these 3 calibres I'd use 140 grain bullets in the 7MM-08, 165's in the 308, and 180's in the 300 Win Mag, and ( especially..) all with partition bullets from the Nosler brand. Loads and shooting cadences can turn those tables quite readily. My daughter shoots the 7-08 with 120 grn Noslers over 44 grns of Varget. Randy11 your making it real hard for me to buy a 6.5 Creedmoor with the results you've had with the 7-08. Dropping down to the 140's in the 7 08 and 150's in the.308 with suitable bullets, you will see no dicernable difference. It seems to like the 140 E-tips. I know the grain of the bullet makes the difference, but I think that question would be better suited for the ammunition and reload forum. The bullet diameter is .308 inches or 7.8mm, and the case length is 2.015 inches or 51.18mm. First of all, the two cartridges share a lot of history. Bell’s.275 Rigby, the British title for the 7x57mm Mauser. The 7mm-08 and .25-06 are hardly ever mentioned as all-around calibers, yet here they are. I think Buzz has some experience with the 7-08, might search up his photos and posts. The.308 comes closer to 7mm-08 trajectories with heavier bullets, but at the cost of increased recoil over the 7mm cartridge. Joined Dec 20, 2000 Messages 17,709 I have a friend that's taken over 20 Elk using one rifle a .308. The 7mm-08 was derived from necking down the neck of the.308 Win and allowed it to accept the smaller diameter 7mm … The 7mm-08 is a bit closer to the 308 and doesn't really come close to the ballistics of the 7mm mag. As for the model 70 fwt, I don't think you could go wrong, I've maybe got at least one in my safe, of course, it's the real baby 7. Therefore, the 7mm-08 has less recoil, a flatter trajectory, penetrates better, and has less wind drift at typical hunting ranges. Both will kill elk at sedate velocities. A 7x57. The only heavier (than 140 grain) rounds I have seen for the 7mm-08 are the Federal 150s, which don't have a great BC, and the Berger 168 VLDs loaded by Corbon. It could bust your butt if you weren’t ready for it. What I found interesting were numbers four and five on the list above. I have 7 mags, .308s and now a .260. Well, truth be told, I have a hard time not making the .308 my No. I'd be nervous about the 120 ttsx, as I think that light bullet with mediocre BC will fall off in power, at longer ranges. In my honest opinion, I wouldn't use or buy a 7MM08. They are practically the same rifle. The only difference is where the animal has died, all the non magnum calibers perform exceptionally well, but … Obviously, it depends on what you want to do. Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. Suddenly, a sliver of rib came clear. 1. necked down, but what a difference this bit of pre-nuptial necking makes. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. The 6.5 creedmoore is getting some traction as an all around caliber also, might investigate that, too. Federal Premium Nosler Partitions. The .308 will handle the 180 gr bullet a tad better than the 7 08 will handle the 175 gr. It can't help but win. may be just the 308 Win. The 7mm-08 case is just slightly longer than the parent.308—2.035 inches vs. 2.015 inches—but maintains the same 20-degree shoulder of the.308 Winchester. Another glimpse, another 140-grain softpoint, and the elk collapsed. Here are a couple of details that you should remember about 7mm-08 Remington and 6.5 Creedmoor. The 7mm-08 case is just the 308 case necked down to hold the narrower bullet. 6.5 Creedmoor. S. Joined: Jan 2007. Posts: 3,195. .308 is perfectly adequate for elk or black bear. bullet faster. I have a .270 Savage bolt action with a 4x12 Leupold that probably weighs 8-8 1/2 pounds with the scope. Between the .308 and 7mm-08, which would you choose and why? While assessing different cartridges, you could have a general idea about their characteristics if you carefully research their development history. The… Both shoot about 1/2 inch with handloads. Seriously who gives a crap? Day trip or overnight at most. Basically, Remington intended the caliber to be able to provide lesser recoil than a .308 while still being large and powerful enough to kill wild North American game effectively at long distances. I have shot 2 bucks, an antelope and a cow elk with them, and all died. The 7.62x51mm NATO round is slightly different, but each round can fire in a rifle chambered for the other. Commercialized in 1980, the 7mm-08 did not garner the hype lavished on many new cartridges. 140 gr. 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