SMN has an opening rotation, and there are a lot of guides for that (and I'm not sure how it changed for 51+), but remember that it's a dot class. As of 5.10 its cooldown is 55s. Use your pet command skills. Snickers085 7 years ago #2. You'll get there :). Aetherflow on single targets should be spent on Fester. :O ", like the one you find at the top of internet searches, which suggests to cast contagion AFTER applying dots (They apparently haven't thoroughly read the 4.0 patchnotes) and SWIFTCAST Ruin ll as much as possible! I am currently still lvl 50 and could really really need some help on how my rotation should be >-<. But if I read it once, I'll remember it for life <3. jumpy 7 years ago #2. if i remember correctly -- it was a long time ago -- i made sure to do two main things: a) burn down the guy's mega-summon or w/e when he spawns it and b) keep my pet (in this case titan) topped off. Lv. In both cases, it's about control. In these boxes, I’ll put info that you’ll likely be referring to (or discovering) while leveling up your Arcanist. Everything I’ve searched for is telling me to weave my egi assaults, but they must have been changed them to gcd’s before I got my hands on summoner. SMN's maximum MP affects how much MP we get back through Aetherflow, as Aetherflow restores MP equal to 20% of our max MP. So why isn't everyone a Summoner? Start the game as Conjurer (into White Mage), or Arcanist (into Scholar). So, unless your gears are totally left behind or you didnt use other skills especially fester, you should be able to do okay dps (since spell speed buff affects dots too now). Is there a reason behind this? A community for fans of Square Enix's popular MMORPG "Final Fantasy XIV Online", also known as FFXIV or FF14. Still, there is a only a few "guides" for lvl 70 Summoners, and most of the ones find make me go "WTF? If the Enemy can be slowed also make sure to put up a Shadow Flare, its helpful. Snickers085 7 years ago #4. I just want to make sure I'm helping my team by doing damage properly so could any other summoners out there TYPE out the order in which I should be rotating my skills? How to unlock the ACN Class?. Arcanist Weapons, Summoner Weapons and Scholar Weapons, are various types of books - which contain words and phrases used for incantations. Friends, I just hit level 50, and was wondering the best way to get the most out of my deeps? Ruin II costs double MP for little gain. You can then throw in Fester and later Painflare - but pace yourself. The rotation he lists in the second part of that guide is pretty much what you want at 50, minus the new skills. User Info: Snickers085. Last but not least of these reminders, always logout at a sanctuary. A. Use up your aetherflow stacks on fester (single target) or bane to spread dots around before the aetherflow cooldown Is up and immediately use that when it is. There's no point in Ifrit-Egi setting up a Radiant Shield on everyone in the last second of battle. Since it's a placeable group DOT make ample use of it in groups, even bosses if Slow works on them. Energy Drain my friend, it's your friend too. I usually throw it in right before a boss goes invulnerable, or when an enemy is about to die, but for general spamming, just plain old Ruin is fine. Press J to jump to the feed. FFXIV Jobs; FFXIV Shadowbringers Summoner; Guide; AoE; Pages in this Guide. In terms of your own buffs (Raging and Quelling), make sure to use them to effectively increase your DOT damage as well as your Fester. I never really played it before. Speaking of Ruin 2, I noticed you didn't mention it, and said to use Ruin 1? FFXIV samurai's rotation is pretty simple at level 50 since you don't have access to your Kenki gauge yet. This is a legitimate observation. Keep your dots up always, use Ruin II only when you need to be on the move (its no stronger than Ruin and eats more MP.). Press J to jump to the feed. After this, bosses can vary wildly so it becomes very situational. Think the new Summoner Job skills could have the Summoner take the form of a Primal, based on the current Egi they have summoned (kinda like a fusion, which combines the Summoner's Aether, and the Egi's essence to create the complete form of the primal, and the summoner can play as a primal as long as they have MP. Use Fester till then). (0) et här är en sång om ingenting så alla bratz kan hoppa omkring e på klubben, dricker skumpa och alla brudar tar på min rumpa det här är en sång om ingenting så alla bratz kan hoppa omkring o i baren shotar vi jäger för att visa vem som äger. DoctorRPG 7 years ago #1. As for the rotation itself for a 50 smn, this is how I usually worked with it; Single Enemy; Bio 2 -> Miasma -> Bio (Use Contagion from Garuda to make them last longer if you are using her) -> Fester -> Ruin -> Ruin -> Fester etc. My Level 70 SMN rotation Public. User Info: DoctorRPG. 1 Intro; 2 Starting Off; 3 Levelling Up; 4 Openers; 5 Rotation; 6 Pets; 7 Demi-Summons; 8 AoE; 9 Role Actions; 10 How To Improve; AoE. I'm assuming you simply DoT one and bane again. And if Garuda-Egi decides to use Contagion before you've even set up your DoTs then it's completely wasted. The initial setup phase gets your DoT effects up quickly. The rotation he lists in the second part of that guide is pretty much what you want at 50, minus the new skills. Hi there, I was actually on voice call with the tank you were running with at the time ;) I'm her boyfriend xD. Use your main damage dealer when all else is covered. Shadow Flare's damage isn't huge, but again it adds up. Reply. In general priorities go as such at level 50: Put up DoTs unless enemies will die shortly. How should you handle DoT reapplication in groups? Be very careful to ensure that Garuda's Contagion has taken effect before you use Bane, otherwise you won't get the 15s extension on the other targets. I always feel like I'm doing something wrong when I'm doing that and I think it's because I'm not used to the idea of my main source of damage coming from DoTs instead of direct damage dealing spells (like Ruin or any other spell like it). Group Fights; As before, All three dots go up first. Spreading that 800+ damage to multiple enemies is what really gets your dps up, and especially now in Heavensward, with Bane affecting ALL nearby enemies (albeit at half power after the fourth), your damage quickly snowballs. Feels like it deals 0 dmg...), See this thread for a great writeup on Summoner in the new expansion: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/3bqlgx/the_30_summoner_an_extensive_guide_by_hai_hai/. Are these ideal? The requirements are having a disciple or magic or war at level 50. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Summoner Guide 5.4 FFXIV Shadowbringers Summoner AoE. Apply Bio and Miasma to one enemy and use Bane to spread it. Lv 50, 60 and 70 mark different "strategies" as Summoner as far as I'm concerned. My cross class skills are: Internal Release Foresight Feather Foot Blood Bath and Fracture. Summoner Rotation Guide: Understanding The Basics (50 Guide) Guide in ' Disciples of Magic ' published by Ivy, Jan 7, 2016. If you can be in melee range, do that and smack it with your book while you spam ruin 2. Hello, I've tried looking at guides and whatnot but most stuff is outdated or for level 80 summoners. 25 potency per target can add up to a lot, and the 5% Slow may be unnoticeable, but again adds up. Reply With Quote. Fester at 50 is the king of SMN's single target damage and should be used effectively. I just recently returned to the game from a 1 1/2 year hiatus and used to main Scholar but I remembered how much I hated questing on it and I also didn't feel confident healing after such a long break so I switched to Summoner. Pages in category "Summoner Exclusive" The following 121 pages are in this category, out of 121 total. 52 … Spam ruin in between. should be your "filler" move. It covers the spells you unlock, and when to … Overall, playing Summoner can be very challenging, because there is so much to keep track of. If you started FFXIV as a tank or healer, and want yourself a high-level DPS, this might be the top pick. Use Painflare to spend aetherflow (you get this at 52. I find this gets the best use out of Raging Strikes, because you get two Festers and you should have just enough time to reset the DoTs before it runs out. At level 50, I usually go: You have three stacks of Aetherflow to play with every minute. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Summoner is more about when to do things than what to do. Commenting to reference, thanks for the good write up. Persistence is important as well as patience and the ability to judge yourself to find out where you can improve. User Info: Snickers085. You want to re-up your aetherflow on cooldown. Miasma => Bio II => Bio => Contagion => Bane => Shadow Flare => Aerial Slash => Ruin spam => Renew DoTs as needed. Teach you how to mix up this flow when needed and analyze what your options are at each position in your rotation. You rmain goal is for these skills to be capped at 2 charges as little as possible. In terms of how SMN plays, you want to make sure to always keep all of your dots up since the class centers itself around the damage from them quite a bit. Here's the content you guys know me for. I also get my last piece of Artifact Armor called the Evoker's Doublet. Need help figuring out the best rotation to get back in the swing of things. In the past, Summoner has been much less mobile because it required long periods of standing still and casting Ruin 3 back-to-back - which is currently only a short portion of our r… 13 comments. I'm gonna try my lvl 50 smn. Read guides and practice to really get it down, but the above gives enough info to get a good stretch of the way there. I tried having Outburst alot when I first unlocked it. So keep them in mind. This thread is archived. I really just want to play a Scholar, but I wouldn't mind having a 50 Summoner too. Just remember to keep DoT effects up at all times. I know this thread is old but thank you so much for this. Reply . Aah I use quest gear, I am currently up to iceheart dungeon! I think it's helpful to start out with a description of what Summoner is and isn't- especially in regards to the history of the job since ARR, considering how often it gets significant portions of its skills reworked. Making sure your dots NEVER fall off (but don't overlap either) and keep shadowflare down. How about when you have no stacks of Aetherflow to use? In the rotation it is used in the following ways: the initial opener & specific encounter reopeners User Info: jumpy. Yet what is a god to one man is a demon to another, for the city-states of Eorzea see these beings as a grave threat to their collective survival. To be honest sometimes I screwed up with the rotations (bio/bio II/miasma not in the optimal order etc - well according to those guides) and still can get decent dps, especially better after I got my Zeta weapon. It might surprise you to learn that even if I took off my Crystal and ran as a plain old Arcanist, I was keeping up with - and often exceeding - the damage output of everyone in an entire 24-man alliance. I'm like "Nope". I have written research here in my room.. it’s time to update before 3.0!! If I may take a little more of your time with a couple more questions: I've been told Garuda is too weak compared to Ifrit and never to use it, I actually got yelled at by a tank over this in an earlier dungeon...should I be having Garuda? This was several months ago. More or less the same on dungeons just throw in a Bane sometimes and a Shadow flare (Is that skill even worth it? How do you do the level 50 Summoner quest? South Thalanan is a level 25-50 area, Info above incorrect, you will not get level 20 leves from Little Ala Mhigo. SMN isn't really a rotation, it's a priority system. 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