What makes or breaks the deal, in order to choose one over the other? For instance, the ELD-X from the .243 hits 6.4″ higher than the 7mm-08 ELD-X and 13.7″ higher than the .308 ELD-X at 500 yards. Looking at bullet weight, the 7mm offers bullets ranging between 100 grains and 195 grains (though a fast twist rate is required for the latter). The 308 is actually the commercial designation of the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge. At the same time, due to the fact that the cartridge uses the most aerodynamic bullets, the 7mm-08 loads retain a greater percentage of their muzzle energy at long range than the .243 or .308. The .308 shoots a wider slug, 7.62mm vs. .7mm, or in American caliberation: .30 caliber vs. .28 caliber. On the other hand, the heavier and larger diameter .308 Winchester bullets have more frontal surface area, more resistance to wind drift, and carry more energy down range. Looking at sheer availability, you can’t really get more popular than the .308 Winchester and .30-06 Springfield, and no 7mm will compare with the volume of ammo available. Rigby renamed the 7x57mm to the .275 Rigby, and Holland & Holland had a .275 H&H Magnum in 1912, months prior to the .375 H&H Magnum; the 7mm bullet diameter was here to stay. Book a great South Africa hunting safari here. The .284″ bullets of the weights used by the 7mm-08 Remington strike a good balance that results in a better BC and higher sectional density than the bullets used by the .243 and .308. They also have very similar maximum SAAMI pressures of 60,000, 61,000, and 62,000psi respectively. The .243 Winchester and 7mm-08 Remington are both available in the AR-10 platform as well as the Browning Automatic Rifle, but there aren’t as nearly as many semi-auto rifles produced in those cartridges. You and I are largely in agreement about the .243. Most folks stay in the middle of the bullet weight spectrum, meaning that the most popular in 7mm will be between 120 and 160 grains, and the most popular .30s will be 150-200 grains. Go with the low recoil .243 Winchester or 7mm-08 Remington cartridges. The .308 Winchester is an excellent cartridge, but that hasn’t stopped wildcatters from attempting to improve upon it over the years in various ways. I might even go to 175 gr just for the SD, even though I’d be giving up velocity. by Ken » Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:53 am Hey guys, I'm looking to get a bigger game rifle than my 243 and am trying to decide between 7mm-08 and .308 win. was born. Since Winchester produced their .243 rifles with a faster twist rate of 1:10″, they could accurately shoot heavier bullets and were thus much more versatile than the .244 Remington initially. I'L take it over the 308 any day because I know better. Depending on where you grew up, who your influences are, and what you were exposed to, you may sit firmly in one camp or the other. The data used to compare the trajectory of the cartridges was obtained from Hornady (here, here, and here), Nosler (here, here, and here), and Winchester. The 7mm-08 Remington load has about  2.4″ less drift than the .308 Winchester and 3.8″ less drift than the .243. 7mm-08 vs .308 win? John. Consequently, it has about 18% more frontal surface area (also known as cross sectional area) than the 7mm-08 Remington and over 60% more frontal surface area than the .243 Winchester (.0745 vs .0633 vs .0463 square inches). The .308 case gave wildcatters fresh clay to sculpt, and within a decade of the .308’s release, somebody came up with the 7mm-.308, a necked-down version of the .308 that held 7mm bullets. The sectional density of the 7mm bullets of comparable weight gives them an advantage over the .30s, though the additional weight and frontal diameter of the .30 caliber projectiles swing the pendulum back the other way. as well as 90-100 grain bullets for deer sized game with excellent accuracy. The .243 has a tiny bit longer case than the 7mm-08, which has a slightly longer case than the .308 (2.045″ vs 2.035″ vs 2.015″), but the .308 has the greatest overall length by a very small margin. Were I to make that decision, the choice would easily be for the .308. Thanks for your support. Cause i like how the .308 has a shorter barrel. In my mind, there are direct correlations between these two which can both confuse and direct the shooter to make a choice, though premium projectiles may have blurred those lines in recent years. So where are the major sticking points between the two calibers? These factors make the cartridge more forgiving of range estimation errors and help maximize the shooting abilities of the hunter to a greater extent than the other two cartridges. The new .243 Winchester really caught on with a segment of the hunting population that wanted a flat shooting and light recoiling rifle cartridge that was still powerful enough to hunt big game like deer and pronghorn. They eventually settled on the 7.62x51mm NATO round in the 1950s. If you’d rather listen than read, you can either just press play below or click the appropriate link to download the episode through your preferred service. Supposedly weatherby SA vs LA action alone is almost a lb. Of course Remington and Winchester produce their flagship Model 70 and Model 700 rifles in .243 Winchester, 7mm-08 Remington, and .308 Winchester. However… I do have experience with the 7mm-08 as well… and I believe it’s about the best of the bunch to tackle all needs as far as hunting the lower 48. Buy some high quality 7mm-08 Remington hunting ammo here. This compares favorably to 150 grain, 165 grain, and 180 grain . The 7mm-08 Remington shoots lighter, smaller diameter, and more aerodynamic bullets with a higher sectional density faster than bullets used by the .308 Winchester. by Philip Massaro - All other things being equal, a bigger bullet will make a bigger hole, cause more tissue damage, and result in more blood loss. All other things equal, a heavier projectile of a given caliber will be longer and therefore have a higher sectional density and consequently penetrate deeper than projectiles with a lower mass and sectional density. The .308 carries significantly more energy downrange than the other two cartridges. While the .243 Winchester was indeed a well designed and very effective cartridge, there are plenty of good cartridges that don’t experience commercial success for one reason or another. Therefore, the 7mm-08 has less recoil, a flatter trajectory, penetrates better, and has less wind drift at typical hunting ranges. i shoot left handed and want a left hand bolt action. They’re outstanding for hunting small to medium sized game, but all three cartridges are also perfectly capable of doing the job on bigger game as well. over the .270 Win because I liked the .308’s versatility and shootability. I own both a .308 and a 7mm-08, and hopefully later this year, a 7×57 Mauser as well. This one is a favorite campfire argument, one which will probably have no end. However, the .308 carries more energy downrange than and, since it has a larger bullet diameter, has significantly more frontal surface area than the other two cartridges. I’ve used the 125-grain bullets in my .308 Winchester, and the 220-grain round nosed slugs in my .300 Winchester Magnum, both with good effect, but the majority of my time has been spent with the 150-, 165- and 180-grain .30s. If you ever entertain the thought of reaching out to medium longrange, the 7mm will do it much better. The superior ballistic coefficient of the 7mm-08 Remington helps give that cartridge an advantage over the two other cartridges in terms of wind drift. Mag. Note: while the case capacity figures listed below do give a good indication of the differences between the three cartridges, exact case capacities vary slightly according to the brand of brass used. However, the .308 Winchester is still by far the most widely used and the .243 Winchester is a distant second, but both still rank among the Top 10 in ammunition sales in the USA each year. If you’re going to use them on really big game, be especially cautious about closing the range as much as possible and be very particular about your shooting angles. In this article, I’m going to discuss the pros and cons of the 243 vs 308 vs 7mm-08 cartridges so you can make an informed decision on which one is right for you. They’ll also fit the bill for a hunt in Africa or New Zealand. The 300WM AI mag feed the .284 just fine ( 3.20" OAL with 162 A-max). Capable of shooting heavy as well as light bullets with very good accuracy, the .243 Winchester was also a great varmint hunting cartridge and successfully bridged the gap between traditional varmint cartridges of the day like the .22 Hornet and popular big game hunting cartridges like the .30-06 Springfield. Re: 284 winchester vs 7mm-08 I used to owned a .284 that was build by APA with their action (which is made by Defiance). The rifle I was looking at was a Ruger 6909 youth model for both my wife and step daughter to share. The U.S. Army went four-in-a-row with .30-caliber cartridges, starting with the .30-40 Krag, then the .30-03 Springfield, quickly changing to the .30-06 Springfield, ending with the 7.62x51mm NATO, or .308 Winchester. Think 7mm-08 Rem/.308 Winchester, .280 Remington/.30-06 Springfield, 7mm Remington Magnum/.300 Winchester Magnum, 7mm RUM/.300 RUM. If you dive into the historical developments of the 6.5 Creedmoor round vs the 7mm-08, you will notice how the cartridges are somehow related to .308 Winchester. Put another way, I’d feel much more comfortable pursuing coastal brown bear with a .300 Magnum and premium 200- or 220-grain bullets than I would with any 7mm, irrespective of velocity, though I’d much prefer a three-seven-five for that job. John. 7mm-08 vs .308 win? We've got you covered.• 6.5 Weatherby RPM vs. 6.5 PRC• .338 Win. although i dont wanna go to overboard but i dont want cheap stuff. Even though it also performed very well in the hands of American Soldiers and Marines in World War II, leaders in the military began looking for a replacement for the .30-06 after the war. Parting shot: I’ve got a stag hunt booked for NZ’s south island next March. The .308 Winchester is relatively common in semi-automatic sporting rifles like the AR-10 and M1A. Sectional density (SD) is a measure of the ratio of the diameter of a projectile to its mass. The .243 Winchester, 7mm-08 Remington, and .308 Winchester have all seen extensive use during practical and/or long range shooting competitions. That being said, while it does have a small edge in terms of sectional density, the 7mm-08 Remington doesn’t “punch above its weight” to nearly the degree of cartridges like the 6.5 Swede or 9.3x62mm Mauser. again im looking for an all purpose hunting rifle. Just like with ammunition, .308 rifles are the most common and 7mm-08 rifles are the least common. 7mm-08 vs 308. The .243 Winchester, 7mm-08 Remington, and .308 Winchester are all very popular hunting cartridges and ammo availability for them is generally not an issue during normal times. This article cleared up some very good points I have been pondering. All that being said, these cartridges all still hit hard enough and have a flat enough trajectory that they’re suitable for use of a variety of game at practical hunting ranges. For instance, the .308 Winchester isn’t a hard recoiling cartridges by any stretch of the imagination, but the .243 Winchester, and to a lesser extent, the 7mm-08 Remington both have very well deserved reputations for mild recoil. But what’s in a name? The.30-06 is, as the name implies, a 30 cal bullet with a.308” diameter bullet while the 7mm Rem mag is slightly smaller at.284”. I also know hunters and shooters who are equally fervent about the 7mm bore diameter. Jon has preached the virtues of the 7mm for as long as I can remember, including developing his own cartridge for the bore diameter. Truth be told, there is very little ballistic difference between them inside of 300 yards. All three cartridges also have the same 20 degree shoulder angle. But what’s in a name? Most shooters should be able to handle the recoil of all three cartridges, but the .243 Winchester has a big advantage in this respect. Even discounting the extremely high velocity 55gr .243 varmint load as an outlier, the .243 still shoots a lot flatter than the other cartridges. The .243 also got something of an unintended assist from Remington when they released the competing .244 Remington the same year Winchester released the .243. Some people do handle recoil better than others, but all other things being equal, they will absolutely shoot more accurately with a milder recoiling cartridge. With good bullets and good shot placement, the 7mm-08 will certainly do the job on elk and would probably be my #1 recommendation for a novice hunter going after elk. If I had to choose between the three, it would be the .308. Buy some outstanding .243 Winchester hunting ammo here. It was the choice of bullet weight which hooked my father on .30-caliber, though truth be told, I've never seen him use anything heavier than 200-grain bullets, and I’ve loaded all his ammo for the last quarter century. After all, there’s a reason why they are such popular North American big game hunting cartridges. Mag.• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Remington• 7x57mm Mauser vs. 7mm-08 Remington• .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum• .338 Winchester vs. .375 H&H Magnum• .30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington• .257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage• .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington• .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser• .416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum• .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield• .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie• .300 Win. This data is for Hornady, Nosler, and Winchester factory ammo using a 200 yard zero. Finally, typical .308 Winchester factory loads use bullets in the 110-180 grain range. Regardless of whether you’re using a .243 Winchester, a 7mm-08 Remington, or a .308 Winchester, no pronghorn or deer will go far if you put a well constructed bullet into the vitals. It would be years before he’d look past the .308 or .30-30 WCF, and admit the merits of the .300 Magnums; hunting moose and caribou in Quebec inspired the purchase of a .300 Winchester Magnum and a .300 Remington Ultra Magnum. A premium quality bullet from any of these cartridges will cleanly and quickly take bigger and tougher game like elk, black bear, and even moose at reasonable range. The 7mm-08 loads have around 20-45% more muzzle energy (415-792 ft-lbs)than the .243 loads. For most hunters, I don’t think the .30-06’s other good points are enough to outweigh the 7mm … Depending on the exact model, 20″, 22″ and 24″ barrels are very common for all three cartridges. The same also goes for 90 and 100 grain .243″ bullets with sectional densities of .218 and .242 respectively. The big ammunition manufacturers like Barnes, Browning, Federal Premium, Hornady, Nosler, Remington, and Winchester all produce a variety of quality .243 Win, 7mm-08 Rem, and .308 Win factory ammunition suitable for hunting. All three cartridges are very common in bolt-action rifles. The original 7.62x51mm M80 ball load fired a .308″ 147 grain full metal jacket (FMJ) bullet at 2,750 feet per second (2,469 foot pounds of energy). Sectional density (SD) is a measure of the ratio of the diameter of a projectile to its mass. Shot placement is always important, but it’s even more vital when using a smaller cartridge like the .243 Winchester for hunting elk and other really large game. As an example, 150 grain and 160 grain .284″ bullets. Is the 7mm rem mag a short action ? It would work, but I’d sure want somebody standing behind me with an actual DG rifle, just in case. Maximum pressure obtained from SAAMI (p24, p26, and p31). It has less recoil and a flatter trajectory than the .308, but is more powerful and uses larger and heavier bullets than the .243. I would feel under gunned with any of the three hunting deer. That’s my next purchase… I still regret selling my Remington 700 mountain rifle. Mag.• .30-06 Springfield vs. .270 Winchester• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 8x57 Mauser vs. .318 Westley Richards• .358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum• .22-250 Remington vs. .220 Swift• .270 Winchester vs. .270 WSM• .26 Nosler vs. 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum• .458 Win. Additionally, the Browning X-Bolt, Kimber Hunter, Mossberg Patriot, Nosler M48, Ruger American, Ruger Hawkeye, Savage Axis, and Weatherby Vanguard are available in all three calibers. .308 vs. 7mm-08 There is a catch: a 140 grain 7mm bullet differs considerably from a 150 grain .30 caliber bullet. It still seems that every new hunting rifle that is released is initially available in .30-06 Springfield; it remains a staple in our industry. In last week’s caliber battle, I gave the nod to the .308 Win. As usual, great analysis. Indeed, the .308 Winchester is the poster child for the short-action rifle. Are you very small framed or extremely sensitive to recoil? On average, the 7mm wi… Experiments with necking down the .308 to shoot smaller, .243″ bullets yielded one of the first (if not the very first) cartridges descended from the .308 Winchester in 1955: the .243 Winchester. WWII The 7mm and 8mm mausers and 06 were it. The Lyman 50th Edition (p159-162, p205-206, & p241-245), and Hornady 10th Edition (p231-237, p364-369 & p475-488) reloading manuals were also used as references for the history of the cartridges and provided data to compare their size. Not surprisingly, all three cartridges have virtually the same case capacity. This compares favorably to 150 grain, 165 grain, and 180 grain .308″ bullets which have sectional densities of .226, .248, and .271 respectively. IMO, the 7mm-08 Remington provides the best balance of mild recoil, a flat trajectory, resistance to the wind, and plenty of killing power with good shot placement. Just like you’d expect, the .243 Winchester loads have a higher velocity and flatter trajectory than the 7mm-08 Remington loads, which in turn fire bullets at a higher velocity and with a flatter trajectory than the .308 Winchester loads. At the same time, the .308 Winchester uses larger diameter bullets than the other two cartridges. Velocity is important when deciding which caliber you want to carry out in the field because the higher the velocity you have, the less impacted your round will be by environmental factors such has the wind, rain, snow, sleet, or gravity. Monday, May 18, 2020. Mag.• .404 Jeffery vs. .416 Rigby• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Creedmoor• .300 PRC vs. .300 Win. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, b Typical .308 bullets have more frontal surface area and carry more energy down range though. 150 grain, 165 grain, 168 grain, and 180 grain bullets are the most popular. The .243 Winchester Power Point load hits 6″ and 12″ higher than the same style bullet from the 7mm-08 and .308 respectively. There are parallels in case capacity between the two bores. vs. .300 WSM• .223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington, E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: EmediaHunter@nrahq.org, For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org, You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. For example, when fired from a Ruger American rifle, a 140gr Nosler Partition from the 7mm-08 has nearly 75% more free recoil energy than a .243 Winchester load firing an 85gr Nosler partition. Buy Reviews On A 7mm Vs A 308 Rifle And Ruger 308 Precision Rifle Long Range Scope Reviews On A 7mm Vs A 308 Rifle And Ruger 308 Precision Rifle Long Range Scop However, keep in mind that all of these cartridges, but particularly the .243 Winchester, are in a completely different league from heavy hitters like the 7mm Mag and .300 Win Mag though. All three are far more accurate than I am… and I get moa from the entire group. Mag.• .300 RSAUM vs. .300 WSM• .500 Jeffrey vs. .505 Gibbs• 7mm RUM vs. .300 RUM• .308 Winchester vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .260 Remington• .303 British vs. 8x57 Mauser• .30-06 Springfield vs. All Other .30s• .17 HMR vs. .17 WSM• .450 Nitro Express vs. .470 Nitro Express• 350 Legend vs. .35 Remington• .280 Ackley Improved vs. 7mm Rem. 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